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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by Djanno » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:33 am

Nice map and I liked the look of the mobs too. ;) Those elite are a fun suprise with their abilities! I got killed by a boss, so haven't been through the whole thing yet, just eastern half... Yep npcs/quests will be great when they're put in. :cool:
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:35 pm

Kadence wrote:She does go ice drag for second part X-D unless there is more to it....
Ok, cool. She still is really weak compared to BQ though?

@egg, did the specials get coded the way I had envisioned them or did they get tweaked a bit?
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by eggmceye » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:41 pm

what you envisioned wasn't always crystal clear :p

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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by eggmceye » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:03 pm

ah have figured out the fangs not all needing to be gotten
the bit of memory used to note whether they are gotten or not is being shared by all instances, past and present :fp:

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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by Turtle » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:37 pm

Perhaps the fangs could gain their colors by being magically imbued with the virtues. That would explain the colors, and bridge the gap between moon stones and fangs.

Overall I enjoyed the map very much. It's quite a bit to explore! Thanks Egg and CIA.

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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:30 pm

eggmceye wrote:ah have figured out the fangs not all needing to be gotten
the bit of memory used to note whether they are gotten or not is being shared by all instances, past and present :fp:
I didn't think this was an issue. I couldn't activate the barrier with 1 fang (I think... I played around too much exploring) and I know I can't with 0.

Does that fix two people picking up fangs separate of eachother (eg: one person has 3 the other 5) which is what I assumed to be the issue for bobby when he went through.
eggmceye wrote:what you envisioned wasn't always crystal clear :p
Ill work on that for next time.

What I mean is, as far as the general premise of her being a tank killer (IE her AS is > players DEF she deals true dmg)

Im going through the map right now and making a list of things. Im loving the little easter eggs you have put in places as well as the new mobs.

Ill send you the ideas in an email to keep them on the DL for if / when they get put in. So far Im not' seeing anything broken (other than storyline gaps for lack of quest keywords) just a few polishings here and there.

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this was just kinda creepy

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and a bug. Apparently it happened somewhere else on the continent too.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:41 am

Ok I went through the map a few times today. Overall Im pleased with how it turned out. Some of the things Ive found follows.

bugs:
  • Black uses macrodaemons revenge even if halves are killed -not sure what's going here. I looked at the code again, and if I understand it correctly it should be working fine...
    I think I saw a few mino names on bosses, not sure though
    Instant log to bind town on DC
    Pulling aggro from other regions around Uni (my fault for map design I think)
    Matriarch runs her IP code from map load
Issues:
  • Fangs acquisition: it's a pain in the ass. 1 Time is enough IMO. -see ideas section-
    No TPs in matriarch area, on the peninsula and in the dungeons up to her (makes it harder)
    Matriarch is very easy. Would like to see her have the same stats as BQ to follow lore
    Local message: "All Fangs gotten" for every fang, every time.
    Elite Ranger uses Slice and Dice when not near players
    Currently only need to collect fangs to drop barrier
Ideas:
  • Fangs- Scrap secondary quest to go to the hideout to get the fangs. Make Upper Grian Followers Hideout
    Fangs- Move altars into caves, have fang spawn on kill to place on altar
    A few treasure chests here and there for exploration to be worth while
Todo:
  • Add Haurach backstory dialog
    proof-read books again
    rework lore a tad looked through the books in the map, the rewrites look good enough for now. Changed from a "necklace" to an amulet (makes more sense in my mind)
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by Turtle » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:19 am

CIAassassin wrote:Does that fix two people picking up fangs separate of eachother (eg: one person has 3 the other 5) which is what I assumed to be the issue for bobby when he went through.
I had picked up every fang I'd found, but it's possible I missed one or two. Kadence was the only other person in the instance, and he hadn't picked up any fangs.

(I am Bobby in case that was unclear)

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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:30 am

Turtle wrote:
CIAassassin wrote:Does that fix two people picking up fangs separate of eachother (eg: one person has 3 the other 5) which is what I assumed to be the issue for bobby when he went through.
I had picked up every fang I'd found, but it's possible I missed one or two. Kadence was the only other person in the instance, and he hadn't picked up any fangs.

(I am Bobby in case that was unclear)

yea, I went through it today it doesn't matter if multiple people pick it up or not. As long as all of them are gotten you are golden.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by Eclips » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:39 am

Maybe intentional, but each of these holes lead to the same tile.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:43 am

intentional. It's a Y tunnel.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by Djanno » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:39 am

Are fangs supposed to be required to get to the EM? Yesterday I was able to deactivate the barrier to get to her without any.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:52 am

you are supposed to kill the bosses as well as get the fangs currently.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by eggmceye » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:50 am

Djanno wrote:Are fangs supposed to be required to get to the EM? Yesterday I was able to deactivate the barrier to get to her without any.
unfixed bug - only once per server load do the fangs need getting/activating - by anyone
it will be changed eventually so that each map run thru needs the 8 fangs activating
cia would rather have it per player (like a complete a quest sort of thing) I think ...

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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:56 am

eggmceye wrote:
Djanno wrote:Are fangs supposed to be required to get to the EM? Yesterday I was able to deactivate the barrier to get to her without any.
unfixed bug - only once per server load do the fangs need getting/activating - by anyone
it will be changed eventually so that each map run thru needs the 8 fangs activating
cia would rather have it per player (like a complete a quest sort of thing) I think ...
yep. 1 time to get the fangs for a quest, then never again.

You will only have to fight the bosses again on replay of the map.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by eggmceye » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:09 pm

when I get around to fix it (prob next week) I'll definitely consider doing it yr way tho it also definitely trickier

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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:20 pm

eggmceye wrote:when I get around to fix it (prob next week) I'll definitely consider doing it yr way tho it also definitely trickier
If need be Im cool with eliminating that aspect, and having the fangs spawn in the caves after you kill the boss (will remove that leg of the quest line). Ive already started working on the code for that with Shrike, and have reworked the quest dialogs for that option.

Ive also sent sev the package of quest dialogs for how it was originally set up, he said he'll take a look at them as well and try to polish it out a tad so there will be less work for ya.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by Djanno » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:41 pm

CIAassassin wrote:you are supposed to kill the bosses as well as get the fangs currently.
Btw, right now you can skip killing the bosses too.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by CIAassassin » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:53 pm

Djanno wrote:
CIAassassin wrote:you are supposed to kill the bosses as well as get the fangs currently.
Btw, right now you can skip killing the bosses too.
it's a known bug.
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Re: new map: matriarch's domain

Post by eggmceye » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:24 pm

* hopefully fixed MD bugs: fangs, dragons, macro demon revenge

you have to activate fangs each run thru - it's too hard otherwise (need to consider parties, etc)

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