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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby eggmceye » Sat May 12, 2012 9:41 pm

Severian wrote:A new set of questions:

[1] Can WoTs be used on leeching weapons?

[2] What effect does wearing a shield have for mages and monks? Specifically, does wearing a shield limit these classes in any way, and if so, in what way(s)?

[3] What effect does wearing heavy/medium/light armour have for mages and monks? Specifically, does wearing a heavy/medium armour pieces limited these classes in any way, and if so, in what way(s)?


1: wot on leech will always 'fizzle' and nothing should happen
2: block doesn't work with staff equipped, and shield nullifies the casting speed increase you get from staff. otherwise you get the mr/stat bonuses
3: no effect, but doesn't the def of the armour scale to your class anyway - eg fighers get full def from anything, rogues full def only from light, etc
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Severian » Sat May 12, 2012 11:06 pm

eggmceye wrote:
Severian wrote:[3] What effect does wearing heavy/medium/light armour have for mages and monks? Specifically, does wearing a heavy/medium armour pieces limited these classes in any way, and if so, in what way(s)?


3: no effect, but doesn't the def of the armour scale to your class anyway - eg fighers get full def from anything, rogues full def only from light, etc


Yeah, it still does. I was just wondering if it affected anything else apart from that (def) and walking speed.

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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Keighn » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:24 pm

I'm going to bump this in hopes of others continuing to help update the manaul. Last entry I did was fixing up some of the tints and clarifying gold tint. I'm sure there's still much work to be had in there and I haven't seen Chris online for a bit.
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Bugbo » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:55 am

How about on entry on farming and growing plants?
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby kusofthevalley » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:42 pm

I fixed a misleading example on the advanced crafting page tonight, and am willing to sort out anything else if (a) someone tells me about it, and (b) I can prove it's incorrect/misleading myself.

Just post a message here or PM me.

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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Keighn » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:25 pm

I'm curious about racial benefits. Have they changed since the current postings in the manual?
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby 1 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:05 am

Keighn wrote:I'm curious about racial benefits. Have they changed since the current postings in the manual?


They're up to date in the manual.
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Riksta » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:40 pm

I'd like a manual editing account. I can definitely update parts of the manual and even fix some typos.
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby eggmceye » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:49 pm

email me - with yr current email address and preferred username and I'll set it up
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Keighn » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:47 am

Because I believe in the manual. Le bump
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby eggmceye » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:03 pm

just did a wad of edits but still a long way to go - still haven't put in necromancers properly :fp:
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby dirtyking » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:44 am

eggmceye wrote:
Severian wrote:A new set of questions:

[1] Can WoTs be used on leeching weapons?

[2] What effect does wearing a shield have for mages and monks? Specifically, does wearing a shield limit these classes in any way, and if so, in what way(s)?

[3] What effect does wearing heavy/medium/light armour have for mages and monks? Specifically, does wearing a heavy/medium armour pieces limited these classes in any way, and if so, in what way(s)?


1: wot on leech will always 'fizzle' and nothing should happen
2: block doesn't work with staff equipped, and shield nullifies the casting speed increase you get from staff. otherwise you get the mr/stat bonuses
3: no effect, but doesn't the def of the armour scale to your class anyway - eg fighers get full def from anything, rogues full def only from light, etc



wearing a shield stops monks from casting any specials
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby LaughingCoyote » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:09 pm

Are necromancy and vampires relatively stable?
Is anyone who knows their shit about them willing write a page each for it in the manual?
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby LaughingCoyote » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:58 pm

Minor edit:
The essential controls page that comes up when you press "?" in the client still lists "m" as meditate instead of "n" and doesn't have the current "view local map" command "m"

I don't know if this is an image like the help.png file, but formatting it so that the text is larger/fits the screen would help with the vision impaired. I have to squint a bit to read it as it is.
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby LaughingCoyote » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:25 pm

Do glowing embers still drop from fire dragons? According to manual they should, but helped a newish player farm for them, didn't get a single drop. Or were they only dropped from nightmares/fire foxes etc?
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Keighn » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:48 am

Try fire golems. I suspect they did once on Fire dragons but its pretty rare. There are better ways to get them if you have lots of cash. About the only hint I'll give unless someone else wants to be more giving.
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:05 am

No, I'm aware of the better method. This is for updating the manual - newbie wanted help farming embers, I took him fire dragon hunting - had no joy. Will update on manual. How about the other fire mobs? :p
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Keighn » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:02 pm

What wiki does manual use. I have been considering an off-line wiki and/or editable Pdf.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_wiki

These look simple and fun in theory. I sort of miss bubble.us for brainstorming (seemed slow).
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby LaughingCoyote » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:12 pm

Keighn, its the same as what Wikipedia uses but super old :P

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents

I've already requested Egg adding some extensions to it, just waiting for when he has time/is motivated to do it.
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Re: Help Bring the Manual Up-To-Date!

Postby Zilverlight » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:31 pm

I'd personally like to see more lore and descriptions added to the Races and Classes portion of the manual.

I'm not as familiar with the lore behind the races, I've only read scattered bits and pieces, recently of shadow folk coming from another dimension or something. Creating some kind of lore for these races might spice the page up!

As for Classes:

The mighty Fighter is a master of melee combat, utilizing weapons such as axes, halberds, maces and swords to defeat enemies. They serve as the front line of any party. Whether drawing an enemy's attention from their more vulnerable allies or cleaving through the tough hide of a dragon, the fighter come ready for any challenge.

The Mage is a master of the primal forces of magic. They bring with them a readiness for any situation. Whether it be paralyzing a rampaging ogre, tearing the ground open beneath an army of orcs, or summoning a powerful daemon to his side, a Mage is always prepared for whatever is thrown their way.

The stoic Monk has studied many years with their mentor and is ready to bring enlightenment to all of New Sosaria. Specializing in unarmed combat, a number of unique fighting styles and a kit of supernatural abilities, the Monk can be relied on to always throw almost any enemy off balance and turn the tide of a fight.

The Priest isn't just your typical holy man. They've put on the garb of war and now march against all that remain unholy. Acting as a crossover warrior and healer, the Priest brings much utility to a party. They are able to heal the worst of wounds and even cast away all monsters summoned from beyond the void. They specialize in fighting off the undead with their blessed maces, but that won't stop them from bringing down a couple hellspawn in the process.

The sly Rogue is the unseen dagger in the shadows. While the Fighter or Priest may stand in the front of a fight, the Rogue will likely make their appearance from behind, backstabbing their enemies before they even knew there was danger or firing at them from afar with a lethal bow. Rogues are also masters of security, able to pick the most difficult locks and notice where traps have been set. If there's killing and looting to be done, you'll definitely want a Rogue by your side.

The nefarious Necromancer might look pretty creepy digging up skeletons in the graveyard, but you'll likely not find a better suited killer in all of New Sosaria. From blood sacrifices to a hail of bone shards, the Necromancer is a force to be reckoned with wielding their ritualistic blades and dark magic.

Necromancer and Monk could probably use a little more work, I'm not very familiar with either of those classes... and only kinda familiar with Priests because of Piety being a mage skill back in the day haha.
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