Tournament

Rufio · Post by **Rufio** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:13 pm

When is the next tournament?

Bk · Post by Bk » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:30 pm

Prolly near the end of July? I think.

Post by **eggmceye** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:15 pm

let's organise one!

Yolkindragon · Post by **Yolkindragon** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:09 pm

YAY! about time

goemon · Post by **goemon** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:13 pm

OOH OHH!! IM LIKE 20 STEPS AHEAD! a long time back i set rules and stuff for a tourny, yet never posted them. HERE ISH WAT I HAS THUS FAR!

classes
1-5 +0
6-18 +1
19-32 +2
33-46 +3
47-60 +4
61-74 +5
75-88 +6
89-99 +7
100-113 +8
114-126 +9
127-130 +10
131- 150 +11
151-180 +12
181-220 +13
221-240 +14
241-270 +15
271-290 +16
291-310 +17
311-330 +18
331-350 +19
351+ +20
there are kind of alot, but they are the AS requirements, er up untill +7. i do think it should be maybe halfed... but whatever you guys think is good.

and to stop SUPER CHEAP mage tactics and other cheap things...
only 10 pots TOTAL
only 10 fish
no hp scrolls
no hiding or invisibility

other random stuff

the people watching over the fights NEED TO WATCH BOTH FIGHTER'S HEALTH. if they are restored more than 20 times (not counting mani spells) they loose.

best two out of three

whatever else is good.

Heniek · Post by **Heniek** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:58 pm

Good idea with new edition with tourney, I'm for it. As for rules, I think that rules on last tourney were good, and I don't see reason not to use them again. Because last tourney topic is probably gone, so I'll type them here(from memory, some mistakes are possible):

Classes:

0-40 Newbie
41-70 Light
71-100 Medium
101-150 Heavy
151-200 Elite
200+ Uber

Rules:

Three fights per match. Three greater yellows and blue potions allowed per fight. Forbidden items:

-glass weapons
-khaki potions
-pets/summons

Also I'd like to see new rule enforced in new edition of PK tourney. The rule is: "if you're experienced player, ie. you have any character that would fit into light or higher category, you're not allowed to enter tourney with an alternative char in newbie division". Newbie class should be for real newbs, not new alts of experienced players.

Any ideas/comments?

Bk · Post by Bk » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:20 pm

I don't think scrolls should be allowed.

Scrolls of Protection = Fucks up ppl who use Veno weps and stuff.
Scrolls of Health = Artifical health is kinda cheap in a battle, lets make it real and keep health scrolls for hunting, besides, fights won't last as long.
Truesight = This is okay a bit, even if a rogue did hide, unless the other person was a complete idiot and stood there, stealthing wouldn't be of much use, but for mages who are scared and SL to hide, then I'd see that not to fair.

So I think it's only fair, faster, and more realistic (I guess?) to not use Scrolls of protection or health. But Potions are fair, they kinda equal out VM and M of mages.

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:29 am

I guess I'm all for a PvP Tournament again. BUT the fact of the matter is the above 200 level division needs reworking.
Seeing as a level 200 could get set against akioka a level 381. Not much of a chance there. So if there's gonna be a tourney my two suggestions are: give everyone a little time to get in some last minute grinding and split up the upper level divisons.
The old topic I wrote for the last tourney should still be around here somewhere.

Cirrus · Post by **Cirrus** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:47 am

Heniek wrote:(from memory, some mistakes are possible):

Classes:

0-40 Newbie
41-70 Light
71-100 Medium
101-150 Heavy
151-200 Elite
200+ Uber

Rules:

Three fights per match. Three greater yellows and blue potions allowed per fight. Forbidden items:

-glass weapons
-khaki potions
-pets/summons

Any ideas/comments?

I thought it was:

21-40 newb

41-60 newbie

61-80 light

81-100 medium

101-150 heavy

151-200 elite

200+ uber

I also thought it was 3 regular or 1 mega pot per battle. I'm not sure how purple pot worked, it was either 1 purple per battle or 1 purple for every person you fight(this is also from memory, I might have made mistakes).

Also, IMO characters who already have a champ's belt should not be allowed in the tourney(sorry, Heniek and Raiden). Either that or if they win again they should give their new belt to second place. Why? If you already have a belt, why would you need another?

Rufio · Post by **Rufio** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:16 am

Ok, LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON i really was just asking when but ok!

Rufio

Zilverlight · Post by **Zilverlight** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:14 am

Well, seems you've stirred up another topic for tournies.

I agree with the last years champions not being able to get new belts, but I do think they should be able to fight.

I think Rurik just might make an appearance this year.

Onyxt · Post by **Onyxt** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:15 am

Cirrus wrote: Also, IMO characters who already have a champ's belt should not be allowed in the tourney(sorry, Heniek and Raiden). Either that or if they win again they should give their new belt to second place. Why? If you already have a belt, why would you need another?

Well Cirrus, that wasnt a rule before, so it should not be one now. Thats just your discriminating due to you wanting a belt. Cause your also saying I should not be able to compete either, and thats just not happening.

Bk · Post by Bk » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:19 am

Why wouldn't you give them the chance to defend their title? I mean, if they can woop your ass so badly that they win again and again, its not their fault. I'd have to say that if they win it again, then they deserve to keep it, but the 200+ Lvl division does need some fix'n up.

Stinger · Post by **Stinger** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:35 am

Hmm, would IZH fall under "SUPER CHEAP mage tactics?"

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:43 am

Not to start this into a flame war. But a tournament is open to any and all who enter. There are no restrictions except entering multiple chars from the same account. If you win, that means you're entitled to your belt. Game over.
Anyway to my point, here's a redux of the level divisions with the 200 division fix in mind:

0-40 Newbie Champion
41-70 Featherweight Champion
71-100 Light Champion
101-150 Medium Champion
151-200 Heavy Champion
200-250 Elite Champion
300+ Undisputed Champion
(cropped off the "weight" from all the belt titles minus featherweight; sounds a little odd when you have more than a few classes)

L1ndaP · Post by **L1ndaP** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:46 am

I too think past winners should be able to defend their titles, and get a belt again if a winner.

I too think the above 200 needs to be reworked, there is a lot of players in that level now and a wide gap between 200 and the top player. No other catagory spans that many levels. Maybe above 300 shoud be a catagory.

The rules do need to be standardized so this debate doesn't come up every year, set rules and then there is no debate.

Stinger · Post by **Stinger** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:53 am

Raiden wrote:The old topic I wrote for the last tourney should still be around here somewhere.

I can't find it with the search; I think Egg deleted it when he cleaned up the forums.

Bk · Post by Bk » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:00 am

Stinger wrote:Hmm, would IZH fall under "SUPER CHEAP mage tactics?"

IZH doesn't work on players, but even if it did, it sucks so much now, you'd be dead by a rat before you actually put anyone to sleep :\

Zilverlight · Post by **Zilverlight** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:38 am

Stinger wrote:Hmm, would IZH fall under "SUPER CHEAP mage tactics?"

By SUPER CHEAP mage tactics he means AEP/XC/AEP/XC/AEP etc. and XJ/Xc/XJ/XC...

When you spam either AEP or XJ, that's considered SUPER CHEAP. Rules against that are required.
It's the same thing as in a boxing match, one boxer takes a rope and ties the other guy up THEN beats his ass. Just isn't fair.

Eclips · Post by **Eclips** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:17 am

Keeping a person AEPed non stop is cheap, but lets take away your defense, AS, and enchanted weapons and see how well you fight. AEP and XJ aren't cheap, its part of what makes a mage a mage.