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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby EmoMage » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:41 pm

eggmceye wrote:is bone tint wand going to be a problem?


yeh..
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby 1[WoWz] » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:57 pm

EmoMage wrote:
eggmceye wrote:is bone tint wand going to be a problem?


yeh..


I thought about this quite a bit and here is what I think. Change the HP bonus from 5%/10% per slot to 3.5%/7% per slot. That way, to get the same bonus as before, people will need to use all 10 non-weapon slots instead of 7.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby LaughingCoyote » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:03 pm

1[WoWz] wrote:
EmoMage wrote:
eggmceye wrote:is bone tint wand going to be a problem?


yeh..


I thought about this quite a bit and here is what I think. Change the HP bonus from 5%/10% per slot to 3.5%/7% per slot. That way, to get the same bonus as before, people will need to use all 10 non-weapon slots instead of 7.


I've already suggested this. It would actually be another necromancy nerf as necromancers would have to use every slot to max out their HP bonus to the same level they had before. It would be better to just have a hard cap of +70% instead, with extra bone items not contributing to the hp bonus.

I don't think necros need any more nerfing, they are already pretty squishy as it is.

For none necros the extra +15% from 3 extra slot items pushes them to +50% hp. I don't play enough fighter but that seems like godly HP for fighters.

My problem is just having totally exclusive bone equipment that aren't available any other way but to have been at the birthday weekend. If they were craftable/monster drops then yeah. But any other future necro players will end up being bummed.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Mackey » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:57 pm

Just make bone legs/boots craftable then.

Also, allow party/riposte with krys
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Eclips » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:30 pm

I think bone wands arent the issue. Its the same as giving mythril wands, which already happens. It's gonna allow us and dwarves to have access to things that cant be made as bone/mythril artifacts dont drop.

I think the real problem is that other tints just arent as good. Mainly because most mod def and def is considered a worthless stat.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Tink » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:36 pm

Its not the same as mithril, only one race can benefit from mithril, and its not nearly as good as bone.

Easy fix, keep bone as it is, and necro only, problem solved.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby 1[WoWz] » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:10 am

Mackey wrote:Also, allow party/riposte with krys


It's no longer a foil though. You can't backstab with a stiletto either and you can't tank stance with a sickle or athame.

Tink wrote:Easy fix, keep bone as it is, and necro only, problem solved.


This would screw over non-necros that already have bone gear.

I think LC might be right, cap the limit at 7 bone items. I think bone legs/gloves/feet should be craftable (and I think glass UA/Light should drop or become buyable).
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Tink » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:32 am

Non-necros could just dual class necro instead of priest.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Eclips » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:35 am

Tink wrote:Its not the same as mithril, only one race can benefit from mithril, and its not nearly as good as bone.

Easy fix, keep bone as it is, and necro only, problem solved.


Non dwarves still get a Br def boost. Half the boost.


Non necros still get 5%. Half the boost.

I am ok with only necros getting the boost tho. Or giving necros Regen on top of they're wearing enough bone to be at the max.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby EmoMage » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:58 am

EmoMage wrote:
eggmceye wrote:is bone tint wand going to be a problem?


yeh..


.....as i said.
eggmceye wrote:
ParadoxOfChoice wrote:Zombie using bow/sling probably shouldn't give disease.

the zombies are pulling the arrows out of their ass
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Mackey » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:29 am

EmoMage wrote:
EmoMage wrote:
eggmceye wrote:are people going to whine no matter what I do?


yeh..


.....as i said.


Sounds about right
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby EmoMage » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 am

lmfao. sorry i ruined your game people. wHaT eVeR wILl I dO WiTh MySeLf.

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13-04-2018 16:25:14: Mackey (trade): you two and emo ruined this whole event for a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:25:17: Hohenheim (trade): Egg asked my opinion I gave it
13-04-2018 16:25:27: Mackey (trade): well it was a stupid opinion
13-04-2018 16:25:30: Mackey (trade): selfish
13-04-2018 16:25:35: Hohenheim (trade): Glad I ruined your weekend
13-04-2018 16:25:35: Masonry (trade): don't drag me into this shit
13-04-2018 16:25:38: Masonry (global): fuck that
13-04-2018 16:26:13: Mackey (global): emo i saw you bitching about shit you dont understand on the forums
13-04-2018 16:26:23: Masonry (global): oh yeah?
13-04-2018 16:26:36: Mackey (global): yeah is your memory that bad?
13-04-2018 16:26:45: Masonry (global): oh what, school me
13-04-2018 16:26:59: Masonry (clan WoWz): how'd i fuck anything up?
13-04-2018 16:27:02: Masonry (clan WoWz): i said 1 fucking word
13-04-2018 16:27:15: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Apparently your opinion on the bone wand ruined the game for a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:27:39: Masonry (clan WoWz): oh boo fuckin who
13-04-2018 16:27:40: Masonry (clan WoWz): all my opinion was was "yup"
13-04-2018 16:27:56: Mackey (global): im looking
13-04-2018 16:27:57: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Well your yup cost this game
13-04-2018 16:28:00: Masonry (global): thanks
13-04-2018 16:28:03: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): As did my opinion
13-04-2018 16:28:07: Masonry (clan WoWz): don't care
13-04-2018 16:28:09: Masonry (clan WoWz): ban me
13-04-2018 16:28:13: Masonry (clan WoWz): he asked
13-04-2018 16:28:15: Mackey (global): found it
13-04-2018 16:28:16: Masonry (clan WoWz): i gave an answer
13-04-2018 16:28:18: Masonry (global): okay.
13-04-2018 16:28:24: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Samesies
13-04-2018 16:28:28: Mackey (global): top of page 13 necromancers are live thread in the class forum
13-04-2018 16:28:36: Masonry (global): "yup"
13-04-2018 16:28:40: Mackey (global): egg: are bone tint wands going to be a problem?
13-04-2018 16:28:43: Mackey (global): emo: yeh
13-04-2018 16:28:43: Masonry (global): "yup"
13-04-2018 16:28:57: Masonry (global): so my one worded OPINION fucked up your game?
13-04-2018 16:29:02: Masonry (global): i'm so terribly sorry.
13-04-2018 16:29:06: Mackey (global): then you quoted yourself again to try and put it out there
13-04-2018 16:29:14: Mackey (global): then dont use bone wands
13-04-2018 16:29:17: Masonry (global): "as i said"
13-04-2018 16:29:39: Exutus (global): how is it selfish, if no one got bone wands Mackey?
13-04-2018 16:29:43: Masonry (global): they're not even in the game and STILL causing an issue. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON. jesus fucking christ
13-04-2018 16:29:44: Exutus (global): Your logic is so backwards
13-04-2018 16:29:49: Exutus (global): Get off their dicks already
13-04-2018 16:29:53: Mackey (global): yep so thanks for screwin a bunch of people out of something they really wanted for no reason
13-04-2018 16:30:29: Masonry (global): he asked for opinions, i said one word and you think this is my fault? name ONE fucking time egg has ever listened to me or anything else i had to say?
13-04-2018 16:30:40: Masonry (global): and think this one actually matters. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON
13-04-2018 16:31:00: Mackey (global): think whatever you want, im just done with all three of you
13-04-2018 16:31:11: Masonry (global): oh yeah?
13-04-2018 16:31:14: Exutus (global): YEA!
13-04-2018 16:31:15: Masonry (global): deuces
13-04-2018 16:31:16: Mackey (global): so are a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:31:19: Mackey (global): have fun
13-04-2018 16:31:27: Masonry (global): werd
13-04-2018 16:31:33: Masonry (global): i have a haters group
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ParadoxOfChoice wrote:Zombie using bow/sling probably shouldn't give disease.

the zombies are pulling the arrows out of their ass
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Mackey » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:44 am

EmoMage wrote:lmfao. sorry i ruined your game people. wHaT eVeR wILl I dO WiTh MySeLf.

Code: Select all
13-04-2018 16:25:14: Mackey (trade): you two and emo ruined this whole event for a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:25:17: Hohenheim (trade): Egg asked my opinion I gave it
13-04-2018 16:25:27: Mackey (trade): well it was a stupid opinion
13-04-2018 16:25:30: Mackey (trade): selfish
13-04-2018 16:25:35: Hohenheim (trade): Glad I ruined your weekend
13-04-2018 16:25:35: Masonry (trade): don't drag me into this shit
13-04-2018 16:25:38: Masonry (global): fuck that
13-04-2018 16:26:13: Mackey (global): emo i saw you bitching about shit you dont understand on the forums
13-04-2018 16:26:23: Masonry (global): oh yeah?
13-04-2018 16:26:36: Mackey (global): yeah is your memory that bad?
13-04-2018 16:26:45: Masonry (global): oh what, school me
13-04-2018 16:26:59: Masonry (clan WoWz): how'd i fuck anything up?
13-04-2018 16:27:02: Masonry (clan WoWz): i said 1 fucking word
13-04-2018 16:27:15: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Apparently your opinion on the bone wand ruined the game for a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:27:39: Masonry (clan WoWz): oh boo fuckin who
13-04-2018 16:27:40: Masonry (clan WoWz): all my opinion was was "yup"
13-04-2018 16:27:56: Mackey (global): im looking
13-04-2018 16:27:57: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Well your yup cost this game
13-04-2018 16:28:00: Masonry (global): thanks
13-04-2018 16:28:03: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): As did my opinion
13-04-2018 16:28:07: Masonry (clan WoWz): don't care
13-04-2018 16:28:09: Masonry (clan WoWz): ban me
13-04-2018 16:28:13: Masonry (clan WoWz): he asked
13-04-2018 16:28:15: Mackey (global): found it
13-04-2018 16:28:16: Masonry (clan WoWz): i gave an answer
13-04-2018 16:28:18: Masonry (global): okay.
13-04-2018 16:28:24: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Samesies
13-04-2018 16:28:28: Mackey (global): top of page 13 necromancers are live thread in the class forum
13-04-2018 16:28:36: Masonry (global): "yup"
13-04-2018 16:28:40: Mackey (global): egg: are bone tint wands going to be a problem?
13-04-2018 16:28:43: Mackey (global): emo: yeh
13-04-2018 16:28:43: Masonry (global): "yup"
13-04-2018 16:28:57: Masonry (global): so my one worded OPINION fucked up your game?
13-04-2018 16:29:02: Masonry (global): i'm so terribly sorry.
13-04-2018 16:29:06: Mackey (global): then you quoted yourself again to try and put it out there
13-04-2018 16:29:14: Mackey (global): then dont use bone wands
13-04-2018 16:29:17: Masonry (global): "as i said"
13-04-2018 16:29:39: Exutus (global): how is it selfish, if no one got bone wands Mackey?
13-04-2018 16:29:43: Masonry (global): they're not even in the game and STILL causing an issue. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON. jesus fucking christ
13-04-2018 16:29:44: Exutus (global): Your logic is so backwards
13-04-2018 16:29:49: Exutus (global): Get off their dicks already
13-04-2018 16:29:53: Mackey (global): yep so thanks for screwin a bunch of people out of something they really wanted for no reason
13-04-2018 16:30:29: Masonry (global): he asked for opinions, i said one word and you think this is my fault? name ONE fucking time egg has ever listened to me or anything else i had to say?
13-04-2018 16:30:40: Masonry (global): and think this one actually matters. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON
13-04-2018 16:31:00: Mackey (global): think whatever you want, im just done with all three of you
13-04-2018 16:31:11: Masonry (global): oh yeah?
13-04-2018 16:31:14: Exutus (global): YEA!
13-04-2018 16:31:15: Masonry (global): deuces
13-04-2018 16:31:16: Mackey (global): so are a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:31:19: Mackey (global): have fun
13-04-2018 16:31:27: Masonry (global): werd
13-04-2018 16:31:33: Masonry (global): i have a haters group


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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Azalynn » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:16 am

It is strong for fighters LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON Thrall on PD has 7.5k hp in beserker stance as a half orc. I enjoy being the tankiest bastard you can possibly be.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Azalynn » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:17 am

EmoMage wrote:lmfao. sorry i ruined your game people. wHaT eVeR wILl I dO WiTh MySeLf.

Code: Select all
13-04-2018 16:25:14: Mackey (trade): you two and emo ruined this whole event for a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:25:17: Hohenheim (trade): Egg asked my opinion I gave it
13-04-2018 16:25:27: Mackey (trade): well it was a stupid opinion
13-04-2018 16:25:30: Mackey (trade): selfish
13-04-2018 16:25:35: Hohenheim (trade): Glad I ruined your weekend
13-04-2018 16:25:35: Masonry (trade): don't drag me into this shit
13-04-2018 16:25:38: Masonry (global): fuck that
13-04-2018 16:26:13: Mackey (global): emo i saw you bitching about shit you dont understand on the forums
13-04-2018 16:26:23: Masonry (global): oh yeah?
13-04-2018 16:26:36: Mackey (global): yeah is your memory that bad?
13-04-2018 16:26:45: Masonry (global): oh what, school me
13-04-2018 16:26:59: Masonry (clan WoWz): how'd i fuck anything up?
13-04-2018 16:27:02: Masonry (clan WoWz): i said 1 fucking word
13-04-2018 16:27:15: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Apparently your opinion on the bone wand ruined the game for a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:27:39: Masonry (clan WoWz): oh boo fuckin who
13-04-2018 16:27:40: Masonry (clan WoWz): all my opinion was was "yup"
13-04-2018 16:27:56: Mackey (global): im looking
13-04-2018 16:27:57: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Well your yup cost this game
13-04-2018 16:28:00: Masonry (global): thanks
13-04-2018 16:28:03: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): As did my opinion
13-04-2018 16:28:07: Masonry (clan WoWz): don't care
13-04-2018 16:28:09: Masonry (clan WoWz): ban me
13-04-2018 16:28:13: Masonry (clan WoWz): he asked
13-04-2018 16:28:15: Mackey (global): found it
13-04-2018 16:28:16: Masonry (clan WoWz): i gave an answer
13-04-2018 16:28:18: Masonry (global): okay.
13-04-2018 16:28:24: Hohenheim (clan WoWz): Samesies
13-04-2018 16:28:28: Mackey (global): top of page 13 necromancers are live thread in the class forum
13-04-2018 16:28:36: Masonry (global): "yup"
13-04-2018 16:28:40: Mackey (global): egg: are bone tint wands going to be a problem?
13-04-2018 16:28:43: Mackey (global): emo: yeh
13-04-2018 16:28:43: Masonry (global): "yup"
13-04-2018 16:28:57: Masonry (global): so my one worded OPINION fucked up your game?
13-04-2018 16:29:02: Masonry (global): i'm so terribly sorry.
13-04-2018 16:29:06: Mackey (global): then you quoted yourself again to try and put it out there
13-04-2018 16:29:14: Mackey (global): then dont use bone wands
13-04-2018 16:29:17: Masonry (global): "as i said"
13-04-2018 16:29:39: Exutus (global): how is it selfish, if no one got bone wands Mackey?
13-04-2018 16:29:43: Masonry (global): they're not even in the game and STILL causing an issue. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON. jesus fucking christ
13-04-2018 16:29:44: Exutus (global): Your logic is so backwards
13-04-2018 16:29:49: Exutus (global): Get off their dicks already
13-04-2018 16:29:53: Mackey (global): yep so thanks for screwin a bunch of people out of something they really wanted for no reason
13-04-2018 16:30:29: Masonry (global): he asked for opinions, i said one word and you think this is my fault? name ONE fucking time egg has ever listened to me or anything else i had to say?
13-04-2018 16:30:40: Masonry (global): and think this one actually matters. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON
13-04-2018 16:31:00: Mackey (global): think whatever you want, im just done with all three of you
13-04-2018 16:31:11: Masonry (global): oh yeah?
13-04-2018 16:31:14: Exutus (global): YEA!
13-04-2018 16:31:15: Masonry (global): deuces
13-04-2018 16:31:16: Mackey (global): so are a lot of people
13-04-2018 16:31:19: Mackey (global): have fun
13-04-2018 16:31:27: Masonry (global): werd
13-04-2018 16:31:33: Masonry (global): i have a haters group

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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Mackey » Sat May 19, 2018 5:49 am

Necromancers could use more spells.
AOE curse that causes disease
Melee spell attack that slows
Make dark ritual a circle one spell
Hexblades have a chance to cause disease
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Azalynn » Sat May 19, 2018 7:16 am

Scythe sweeping like attack, hits everything in a frontal cone or just the 3 spaces your character is facing, would be dope.
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Re: Necromancers ARE LIVE!

Postby Keighn » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:24 am

Yeah, that would be pretty cool. And if Grim Reaper was XC might be some death triggers. But a VOG trigger could be pretty cool or combined cone.
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