Is a sea based map possible?

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Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:41 am

One where you navigate mainly by ship or raft, with ship "dungeons" that you can explore, islands with cave "dungeons" that you can explore, pirate ship "mobs"that fire cannon at you, mobile whirlpools that chase you and portal you to random locations, etc?
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby eggmceye » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:37 am

yeh, tho raft (etc) needs to be enabled in dungeons. It's a server option: weekly has it enabled but all other dungeons it is disabled. I would like to enable rafts on all other servers but I guess a lot of maps will be come broken.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Bugbo » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:41 pm

What about having a flag for each map that tells whether or not rafts are allowed?
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby eggmceye » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:08 pm

that's an easy fix, yes, but would be cool if raft worked everywhere, eh
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:22 pm

So everything else is not an obstacle?

I really should learn to use maped properly.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Onyxt » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:04 am

eggmceye wrote:yeh, tho raft (etc) needs to be enabled in dungeons. It's a server option: weekly has it enabled but all other dungeons it is disabled. I would like to enable rafts on all other servers but I guess a lot of maps will be come broken.

I personally dont know how many maps would become broken, but it'd be a way to fix not being able to grab drops on water. Thats been a pain in the ass for years now.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LordMortiferus » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:50 pm

My suggestion is to enable rafts on all maps and let the comunity figure out which maps are broken and if they can be fixed. I guess most can be fixed by bar-fea, or maybe tweak how meta-mapped regions work. Aside from using ladders and teleporters you can walk from on region into another region (which is not used in any map to my knowlage). If it is possible to restric the later, most maps should be fine with rafts.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Bugbo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:38 pm

Is lost jungle the map with scripted boat ride? That may give problems if you allowed players to raft in it. Would it be possible have a "no rafting" flag that can be applied to certain regions rather than the whole map?
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Keighn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:50 pm

Had a similar idea with wading and swimming. Not wanting to complicate things but different depths, currents, heavy rapids, whirlpools, undertows and stray waves plus winds can make a difference. I also thought underwater swimming maps and cloud maps would be cool.

Yeah, some maps might become way easier.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:28 pm

How much riffing (aka plagiarising) can I do off Treasure Island, Peter Pan, Pirates vs Ninjas, Pirates of the Caribbean, Sinbad, etc?
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:23 pm

Also, can ship-in-a-bottle work in maps? Cause it doesnt atm. :(

And is there any reason why moving whirlpools/maelstroms cant be implemented?
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Kynt » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:32 pm

I had thought about trying to make a sea based map. Main idea is to have a large archipelago with many islands and different content in each one, as well as adding a bit of backstory to it or something. Super ambitious but I'll probably do some stuff for fun and if I ever end up with some sort of finished product I'll show it.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:10 pm

Kynt wrote:I had thought about trying to make a sea based map. Main idea is to have a large archipelago with many islands and different content in each one, as well as adding a bit of backstory to it or something. Super ambitious but I'll probably do some stuff for fun and if I ever end up with some sort of finished product I'll show it.


We can collaborate if you like. PM your email address to me.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:24 am

Also, is it possible to have map entrances around an island? So you approach an island in the main map, and it ports you into a mini map with an enlarged island? Then hit the map boundary of that island map to exit back into the main map?

.........PPP........
.......P XXX P.....
.....P XXXXXX P...
.......PP XXXX P..
..........PPPPP....


X = island tiles
P = invisible portal tiles
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Keighn » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:39 am

I never finished my Buccaneer's Den project. It was a combination of all the ultimas and then some. Damn big map but very unfinished.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:19 am

Ched correctly noted we would need a palm tree and a cannon sprite. Some first attempts at a Palm tree sprite for EUO.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Tink » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:35 am

I like the palm tree!

Cannon needs better color palette, I'll see if I can make any worthwhile edits.

How far along are you with this season based "map"
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:34 pm

does the tree need a pink background? I could help with some tiles if you'd like me too.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:18 pm

Tink wrote:I like the palm tree!
Cannon needs better color palette, I'll see if I can make any worthwhile edits.
How far along are you with this season based "map"


Yeah, the cannon sucks. I think I will try making a top down version as that will look better in ships where everything else is top down in view.

Kynt and I are just in the planning/discussion stages, and flaffing around in MapEd.

EmoMage wrote:does the tree need a pink background? I could help with some tiles if you'd like me too.


I think for terrain tiles no pink background - as thats for items so that you can see the background tile.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LordMortiferus » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:31 pm

LaughingCoyote wrote:Also, is it possible to have map entrances around an island? So you approach an island in the main map, and it ports you into a mini map with an enlarged island? Then hit the map boundary of that island map to exit back into the main map?

.........PPP........
.......P XXX P.....
.....P XXXXXX P...
.......PP XXXX P..
..........PPPPP....


X = island tiles
P = invisible portal tiles

You would do that with trd-features. just make sure to add some text, otherwise damage is dealt to the player by the trap-door. Afaik you cannot disable the portal-sprite using tel-features and lxy-features do not teleport to different maplevels, though with those you can disable the portal-sprite.
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