Is a sea based map possible?

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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Kynt » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:04 pm

LordMortiferus wrote:You would do that with trd-features. just make sure to add some text, otherwise damage is dealt to the player by the trap-door. Afaik you cannot disable the portal-sprite using tel-features and lxy-features do not teleport to different maplevels, though with those you can disable the portal-sprite.

lxy doesn't tp to different levels? I thought that was its main purpose and if you wanted an in-level teleport you set its value to -1. lvl would be the non xy version. Unless manual page on this is outdated...
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LordMortiferus » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:48 am

Sorry I got that mixed up a bit - it has been awhile.
lxy-fea can be used for level change, however you have to press "space" to make it work, eg. ladders and towns on the over map.
With tel-fea you can disable to portal-sprite but you cannot change the level.
prt-fea can be used to change the level but the portal-sprite cannot be disabled.

I'll double check on the dev server later

Edit: prt-fea item value has to be set to -1, otherwise it will not work, and you can not make it invisible. Hence trd-fea with text is your best choice for automatic teleportation between levels.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby eggmceye » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:51 am

it's a mess but here is how it works
btw the manual is actually correct but here is the shot version
http://euotopia.com/manual/index.php/Fe ... d_Triggers

0) lvl : SPACE. map changer. engine decides dest x,y
i) lxy : SPACE. map change with v>=0 or same map with v=-1. map decides dest x,y
ii) tel: INSTANT. always map change. item=-1 to make the portal itself invisible
iii) prt : INSTANT. always loads new map and shows an actual portal (that can't be turned off). req item = -1 so it is permanent (item=0 is a town portal!)
iv) trd: INSTANT. invisible. loads new map. leave text="" for some tiny random damage, or put a message to make it work like an invisible portal

unfortunately I've never specified a policy for when to use what triggers. Hence it's inconsistent across different maps/map makers.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:59 am

eggmceye wrote:it's a mess but here is how it works
btw the manual is actually correct but here is the shot version
http://euotopia.com/manual/index.php/Fe ... d_Triggers

0) lvl : SPACE. map changer. engine decides dest x,y
i) lxy : SPACE. map change with v>=0 or same map with v=-1. map decides dest x,y
ii) tel: INSTANT. always map change. item=-1 to make the portal itself invisible
iii) prt : INSTANT. always loads new map and shows an actual portal (that can't be turned off). req item = -1 so it is permanent (item=0 is a town portal!)
iv) trd: INSTANT. invisible. loads new map. leave text="" for some tiny random damage, or put a message to make it work like an invisible portal

unfortunately I've never specified a policy for when to use what triggers. Hence it's inconsistent across different maps/map makers.



all of this shit sounds neat to me, i just wish i knew wtf you meant. maybe i need to do some reading in the manual and maybe actually take a crack at making a map. :cry:
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:46 am

2nd attempt at cannon, top down view this time
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:47 am

Need to shorten the carriage and place the wheels slightly closer together, and add a black outline.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby Tink » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:36 pm

Thats not bad.
The angle seems off, but shading and shape look good!
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:02 pm

not great, but it's a stab at it. the coloring to it went all crazy with the program i used for help with shading.. but i tried to touch it back up some.

lc's cannon.png


edit: round 2

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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:25 pm

lc, here you go.

whirlpool
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:28 pm

Nice! Both the whirlpool and the cannon. :dancecow: :dancecow: :dancecow:
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:37 pm

as requested, LC. :P

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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:41 pm

deep water post for LC

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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:51 pm

Cant get this to work when i test it out in client. Its the correct pink, exporting it in web format as 24bit png with no transparency. No joy. :(
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LordMortiferus » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:04 pm

I had a look at your Whirlpools LC. There are artefacts in the background which are not pure pink, hence it looks awkward in game. I am not sure how this happened with png file format unless you used something like jpg in between which by default uses image compression. What ever program you are using, I would consider using something else. Gimp is free and very powerful if you know how to use it. You could probably get a cheap copy of Paint Shop Pro 9.x on ebay or research if it is abandonware by now. I tend to save imagefiles in the native format of the software I am using, these should be without compression and you might be ablte use different raster and vector layers.

P.S.: What I do not understand is why there is no transparency at all in you screenshot. From what I saw in the btiles-file there should be at least partial transparency.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LaughingCoyote » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:13 pm

Thanks. Chedich came up with same conclusion. Photoshop seems to be introducing the artifacts somehow when i export it cause it looks fine when im editing it. :(
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LordMortiferus » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:02 pm

What's weird about this is that only the whirlpool is affected in the btiles, hence I would conclude saving/exporting as png works fine. I am still wondering if you used another fileformat for saving the whirlpool sprite while editing it other something else in your workflow went bonkers.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:10 am

paint.net is 100% free and works perfectly.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby LordMortiferus » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:25 am

Kevin, could you upload the deep water tiles please. That looks intriguing.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:28 am

LordMortiferus wrote:Kevin, could you upload the deep water tiles please. That looks intriguing.


I'm not currently home, but if you look in the 32x32 updated thread, go to page 7 and the 3rd post down is my water tiles. Sweetie posted it, which is me. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON. I forgot the password to this account during that time. But yeah, page 7, 3rd post down, 32x32 updated thread.
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Re: Is a sea based map possible?

Postby EmoMage » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:31 am

One thing that like about those water tiles is that the deep water tile is the same one, but with some lines taken out. So it flows really really well, but it does make it a trade bit more difficult to see. Which is perfectlying okay with me. LAUGHING OUT LOUD LIKE A MORON
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