Make NG Great Again

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by eggmceye » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:10 pm

LaughingCoyote wrote:Are anyone of the people saying ok to this mages? Seriously dont need an hp nerf on mages in reg, thanks.
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by eggmceye » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:12 pm

I'm gunna do some spreadsheets before I proceed

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by LaughingCoyote » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:07 pm

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bruhhhhhhhhhh, wake up and drink some coffee next time. :mrgreen:
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by eggmceye » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:46 pm

my previous formula proposal's HP is too high
revised new formula, based off reg/pd's formula, where lvl is replaced with (2*raw_stat_total-75)/6

hp=raw_str+1.5*(2*raw_stat_total-75)/6+10

again it's a nerf for <1000 stats but if you look at the "effective" stat total col (which takes in 2x stats for ng) and compare to the hp col, it scales pretty well
last col is current ng hp total
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by 1[WoWz] » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:58 pm

Thanks for doing the math, it looks good!
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by eggmceye » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:32 pm

it is done
* stat cap doubled to 2000 as a start with potential to increase it to 3000
* new max HP formula which is basically a nerf but brings it into line with reg/pd as far as max HP is calculated
* hoping it isn't mad slow to get to 2k

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by Tink » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:59 am

I could kiss you. :aus:

Stat gain is super slow, but not the end of the world.

Edit: INT raises super slow, my session time is almost 7 hours and 15 minutes, of spamming IL and I've only went up roughly 111 points.
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by 1[WoWz] » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:33 am

Really looking forward to playing NG again. Training some strength today from 950 to 975 seemed a little slow but it wasn't too bad. I'll see how bad it is past that.
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by Onyxt » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:05 am

So I was using block to train my strength. It took about 2 hours and 23 minutes for 100 stat increases. Its a wee bit slow now, couldnt imagine the 1900 to 2000 grind.

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by eggmceye » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:16 am

I'll check it out

also, weekly will inherit this HP nerf .... maybe weekly needs to be made harder? I could put the cap up on weekly to compensate if it is now suddenly too hard
(this hp has not been made live on weekly)

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by EmoMage » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:42 am

weekly needs to be renamed monthly, or have it set to weekly. it's really confusing. :geek:

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when does weekly reset
beginning of the month
then why's it called weely?
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by 1[WoWz] » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:44 pm

eggmceye wrote:I'll check it out

also, weekly will inherit this HP nerf .... maybe weekly needs to be made harder? I could put the cap up on weekly to compensate if it is now suddenly too hard
(this hp has not been made live on weekly)
When you raised the stat cap to 1000 last time, you had to adjust it since it was very slow. I'm guessing the same thing is happening.

I suggest a weekly server that is actually weekly (not monthly) with some of the redundant last 10 levels removed. Of course this should reward like 10 addy coins, not 50.
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by SanJorge » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:45 pm

If I remember right ,int doesn't increase using full learned spells, but hexblades work fine.

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by Shino » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:45 am

24hours of nonstop castin IL which is the fastest spell to spam got me from 25 int to 1091.

10hours ago my int was 999 so it takes maybe 12 hours for 100 points now and it is getting slower all the time.

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by Keighn » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:25 am

Trying for town light source eh? They pay is terrible I tell yah. TERRIBLE!
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by eggmceye » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:32 pm

I checked my ng stats gains/time spreadsheet & have tweaked the knobs accordingly, tuned to the new 2k cap

I still haven't checked what W is like

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by Shino » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:45 pm

now it is much faster.

1261 int at the moment and need to cast only about 100 times to get it to 1262 which seems to be pretty decent.

no ideas about str gains, need to try it out.


edit:

tried str training with block and its pretty fast also from 950+ stat, doesnt take weeks of fighting to get to max stat again :)

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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by EmoMage » Thu May 03, 2018 1:50 am

so.. i don't wanna bitch, but int gain seems a bit 'tarded. There's a lot of AFK spell spamming to max out int. can it be changed/made so that ANY spell at ANY level will take up intel, cause that's currently not the case. if In Lor (for example) is maxed out at 99 (level 29.6 i think), you get no intel from it as many times as you cast it. same will all other spells unless it's tier 8, but reality when hunting, tier 8 isn't used as much as tier 5, 6, or 7. so it makes getting more int a pain in the arse once your fighting.

while we're NOT forced to afk train int, it feels like we are at the same time.
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by EmoMage » Thu May 03, 2018 2:01 am

double post.

happy hour for NG = x2 bosses?
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Re: Make NG Great Again

Post by Keighn » Thu May 03, 2018 2:40 am

/trimskill to 0 while afk spamming. I’ve done similar in day of old for other skills. Sure you can’t go for a walk or watch a movie without some monitoring.

Makes me wonder on any server if people didn’t just play and cast as they went rather than “train?”
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